Rainman making A Main at Farmer

[vlrshock]

Based on the rules he shouldn't have been in the feature. Now he will be near the top of the point standings.

It was winner only from the B, Stephen got into AX who dnf'd, and somehow Rain (who finished second) got the transfer to the A Main.

Explain how that works if IFRT still uses this format:

COMPLAINTS:The newly formed complaint dept. headed by IFRT-Farmer will accept complaints in this manner ONLY!!! No matter what all finishing orders from every race will stand no matter if theres a complaint or not. No switching of spots!! No deals between drivers!!! The reason for this is with this many drivers showing up for race nights we just dont have the time to anylize every issue that may happen and get done at a reasonable hour. If you have a complaint get ahold of IFRT-Farmer he will drag you into the captains room and hear a brief explanation of your complaint. The info he will need is Driver, Which race, and approximently what lap. No decisions will be made at this time!!! At the end of the night Farmer will review all replays and decide if the complaint was a race incident or over aggresive driving. If its decided it was over aggresive driving then the over aggresive driver will be issued a penalty point. Accumulate 3 penalty points during a season and you will be suspended for the next weeks race. You can accumulate more than 1 penalty point per race night. After your 1st suspension has been served if you receive another penalty point you will be suspended 1 race for each penalty points issued. Incidents happen here and in real life learn to just accept this and understand that we here at IFRT will penalize any over aggresiveness we see necessary. No gray areas here this is exactly how we will do this.


It seems pretty clear to me in that the only person who could take the spot was Stephen. I'm not mad at anyone (except Rain) but the reasoning needs to be explained on how he got the spot.

[vlrshock]

And come to think of it my own teammate Wheel shouldn't have made the A Main last week but he bribed D11 into it. It just goes against the format 100%

[racerboy]

it you dont like the way i run the shows then dont show up we dont want the drama from any of you we r here for fun n im sure the RULES that know one reads will be fixed try to start some more shit this is why ifrt left n im sry that we get more car count than everyone else!

[racerboy]

btw i pentlized 33 thats how rain got in 33 took out ax who xed out and 33 admitited he took em out so i was runnin it by myself and as far as that goes if im running show goto my site for rules ;D

[racerboy]

btw that post you copied was from 2009 when farm ran everything we r still in the changing mode n as far as that goes if ppl didnt like the way i did things shock then we wouldnt have 30 cars a week

[IFRT-Farmer]

So if wheel bribed D11 last week maybe i should take away his a main points then?? Only seems fair right? It sounds like RB made a penalty decision and thats why Rain got in. Sounds right to me. As far as the rule quote... RB is running the races period and his decision stands.

[vlrshock]

Jan 24, 2012 7:53:33 GMT -5 IFRT-Farmer said:

So if wheel bribed D11 last week maybe i should take away his a main points then?? Only seems fair right? It sounds like RB made a penalty decision and thats why Rain got in. Sounds right to me. As far as the rule quote... Change IFRT-Farmer for IFRT-RB and there u have it. RB is running the races period and his decision stands.

Wheel should get 11th or 12th place points for last week, D11 should get 10th, since he didn't actually get to race in the A Main.

Rainman should get 11th or 12th this week, and Stephen should get 10th.

It's your own format I'm repeating since people don't read it apparently. If Rainman was in the A Main this week for finishing 2nd in the B, why wasn't I in the A Main last week for doing the same? I'm not starting stuff I'm just showing your own format and asking why it wasn't followed. That's all.

[vlrshock]

. If its decided it was over aggresive driving then the over aggresive driver will be issued a penalty point. Accumulate 3 penalty points during a season and you will be suspended for the next weeks race. You can accumulate more than 1 penalty point per race night.


Doesn't say anything about penalty points causing people to switch spots, in fact it says the opposite. All spots are final from where you cross the line at. You can't randomly give the transfer to a guy who wasn't even involved in the incident just because he talks you into it. Rain bribed RB into letting him into the A Main, and now he's sitting pretty in points.

Wheel and Rain BOTH should not have made the A Main the last two weeks unless there's a set of rules I'm missing.

[IFRT-Farmer]

If it wasnt followed to the letter its proably because those were MY rules when i ran the shows Shock. RB obviously runs things his way and maybe not exactly the way i run the races. Affter i get with RB i will let you know the why's and what's

[vlrshock]

Alright I'd appreciate that since I was listening to it in vent and it was pretty dumb IMO. I know if you were able to make it I think all positions would have been final as the rules say.

[vlrshock]

And I didn't know how Wheel got in the A Main last week till after the race was over and he and Doit 11 were arguing about it. The fairest thing to do in retrospect is if Wheel and Rainman got 2nd place B Main points and the guys spots they jumped into get 10th for the features from the rules that are in place on the site. I see where RB is making new rules for the future but IMO the first two weeks should go off the rules that were on the Gen 5 rules page that we are supposed to read.

[icefighter]

OK I have 2 things to say:

1. It kills me like no other to agree with Shock on anything but I do agree with that its probably best to go by the rules that are in place on the site that everyone is using.

2. I think the reason people are questioning how it was handled is we all like to run the huge show. IFRT is bringing in great car counts and thats what I for one love to run in and therefore we would like to keep the car counts up so I think questions should be asked in order to make it a show that people will come and support.

[jfrjim]

Y'all get the same car counts as every one else, just them 10 ifrt guys that randomly show up for there show is what makes the difference. And alot of people will not run this show if ifrt allows there guys to run people like AI cars. Apparently this is the case with OCF, and dirty (according to posts by Jason.)

[ifrtend]

I dont know about the dirty incident, but ocf wasnt even there last night. ocf is a 14 year old kid that has had the game for 4 or 5 months and is doing a great job.

[icefighter]

Averaging 36 cars isnt to bad reguardless of how many are IFRT guys.